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An Interview with Mr. Amin Dezhakam, the Dideban of Congress 60 on Doctor's day

There is no ruin that cannot be repaired, no wound that cannot heal, and no problem that cannot be solved—especially with the knowledge available in Congress 60

An Interview with Mr. Amin Dezhakam, the Dideban of Congress 60 on Doctor's day

When A Person Moves Along the Right Path and God’s Grace Is Upon Them, Many of Life’s Knots Are Gradually Untied.

On Tuesday, September 2, 2025 (11 Shahrivar 1404), the Central Branch of female travelers and their companions—the Rose Branch—had the honor of hosting Dr. Amin Dezhakam, the respected Dideban (Watcher) of Worldview. He was the master of the ceremony and his attempts were appreciated with the celebration of Doctors’ Day. On this occasion, an interview was conducted with Dr. Amin, which we invite you to read below.
Interviewer: Greetings and welcome. Thank you for being with us and for taking your time to join this interview. Speaking with you is truly a valuable opportunity for me. I hope this conversation helps convey your meaningful message to a wider audience.
What is your vision for female travelers? In the male travelers’ and their companions’ groups, there are activities such as tree-planting camps and music groups with regular practice sessions. Do you see the possibility of having similar groups, collaborations, and activities for female travelers as well?
Dr. Amin: I think it’s been about three years since I first discussed this topic with Mr. Dezhakam and Ms. Mona. Mr. Dezhakam was also supportive of starting these activities in the female travelers’ section. The first activity that comes to mind for female travelers is music. Other activities are wonderful as well. For many years, camps and tree-planting activities were held only for male travelers, and later for the male companions, since they had the opportunity to participate alongside them.
About four years ago, we started tree-planting camps for female companions, and last year we entrusted all the responsibilities to them, allowing them to handle the planning and management themselves. I believe female travelers have the same potential and capability, and we would be very happy to see activities begin in their section as well.
Regarding music, I also mentioned to Ms. Mona that we first need to build a proper structure. If we are going to start something in this area, it has to be done correctly and based on solid principles. First, we need to train guides and instructors and clearly define where and how we want to begin. Then we can bring in participants and start the training process. God willing, we will also have music groups for female travelers in the future.
Interviewer: You often talk about balance, and marriage is an important part of that. From your perspective, how much does marriage contribute to a person reaching balance?
Dr. Amin: To be honest, even in my teenage years I was very inclined toward marriage. I’m not exactly sure why, but deep down I always felt that marriage was something positive, and I even took steps toward it at a young age. Of course, destiny also plays its role.
I remember an experience from about 21 years ago. I was out with five friends—we were all university students at the time, studying for our bachelor’s degrees. Two of us were strong supporters of marriage, while the other three were strongly opposed to it. Interestingly, those three eventually got married one after another. Of the two who believed in marriage, one passed away, and the other is me, who never married.
What I want to say is that belief is only one part of the story. Along the way—in work, study, or research—marriage opportunities may arise, or they may not. Still, I truly believe in the importance of marriage, and recently my understanding of this topic has grown even deeper. I will also talk about its effects in the worldview session. In short, marriage affects human Khamr (the opioid-like substances naturally produced in the body). In the past [in Persian], elders used a term for unmarried people, Azab (عذب) derived from the Arabic word Mo’azab (معذب), meaning “someone under inner pressure or distress.” Although a single person can still have relationships and social connections, someone who marries and starts a family is generally in a better state, both in terms of Khamr balance and overall biochemistry.
There are, of course, cases where marriage may not be successful, but those are the exception rather than the rule. Overall, marriage has a positive effect on the Khamr and X system (the body’s natural production of opium-like or narcotic substances) and helps a person achieve better physical and mental well-being. When someone is not under constant inner pressure or distress, their efficiency and capacity in many areas of life improve noticeably. I’m referring to the normal situation. Even if one out of a hundred marriages turns out negatively, I still believe marriage has certain benefits, because human beings seem to be designed in such a way that, after a certain age, the Khamr system naturally moves toward balance through marriage.
Interviewer: When you think about how your teachings have helped thousands of people find the right path in life and improve their quality of life, how does that make you feel? And how has it affected you personally?
Dr. Amin: I’m truly grateful to God, my family, and Mr. Dezhakam for providing all this knowledge and laying the foundation for us.
One of the most special moments in my life is reading the personal notes from our members—because they write them and give their notes to me on special occasions [like Guides’ or Didebans’ week]. I remember visiting the female travelers’ groups in the Isfahan and Tehran branches, and the notes they wrote really touched me. It’s the same in other parts of Congress 60. Whenever I visit different branches during Didebans’ Week, their writings are always an important part of my life—I can truly feel their thoughts and emotions. Many of these people I don’t even know personally, and some I may never have met. But when I read or hear what they have written, it gives me a real sense of joy. It’s like feeling useful, knowing you’ve done something meaningful and right. Words can’t really describe it.
Interviewer: When did you realize that just obedience [following orders] wasn’t enough, and that you also had to take on the responsibility of leading?
Dr. Amin: The truth is, I was never a very obedient person—I’ve always been a thinker and a hard worker. But when I was younger, I didn’t really understand the true meaning of obedience and command, and that was one of my weaknesses. Over time, as my knowledge grew and my situation changed, I began to understand it better.
Mr. Dezhakam was my guide throughout both my X and nicotine journeys (the substance and nicotine addiction cure processes, respectively). His guidance eventually helped me grasp the true meaning of obedience and command. Whenever I find myself in a leadership position and things aren’t going smoothly, I first look at my own obedience. I go back, see where I might have fallen short of following properly, and start over from the beginning.
As the saying goes, we learn in order to serve [a statement by Sardar, one of Mr. Dezhakam’s masters]. Learning itself is obedience—when we are being taught, we must be fully obedient. When we begin to serve, we are given a degree of authority. When you are given an opportunity to serve [others], it means some authorities have been handed over to you. Interestingly, in both learning and serving, the other is always present. Learning involves service, and serving involves learning.
We obey and we learn. But at some point, we realize: “I’ve gathered enough [knowledge]; now it’s time to give [it’s time to provide this knowledge to others and serve them.]” We’ve acquired skills, and now it’s time to use them. We’ve learned to play an instrument—now we perform. We’ve gained knowledge—now we teach. Eventually, just collecting skills or knowledge no longer brings satisfaction. That’s when we know it’s time to shift from gathering to giving—to serving others. This is the “Particle-Wave” nature of things: during learning, the Particle aspect grows; when it’s time to serve, the wave aspect strengthens—through interaction with people and helping them. In other words, learning builds our foundation, our “Particle” energy. But through serving [people and the universe], that energy, the energy of the “Wave” aspect, expands and flows. At a certain point, collecting more is no longer fulfilling. True growth happens when we use what we’ve learned to give, to serve, and to positively impact others.
Interviewer: Despite your busy schedule, you dedicate so much time and energy to serving and teaching others. What motivates you to do this, and what is your goal?
Dr. Amin: There are several reasons. One is that when a person starts something, they really want to see it done properly and completely. For example, imagine you’re building a road, and it still hasn’t reached its destination. That feeling of “it’s not finished yet” keeps driving you forward and gives you motivation. Take the Music Legion, for instance. We started it and have had some performances, but it hasn’t reached its full destination yet. We still haven’t been able to perform the Congress 60’ pieces the way we truly envision them—beautifully, powerfully, and in a way that really honors what they are. So far, what we’ve done has been good and acceptable, but it hasn’t fully honored the depth of the content [music].
That feeling of incompleteness actually motivates you to keep going on work you’ve spent years on. Back in the old days, they talked about Phase 1, Phase 2, and so on. Each new phase would launch a part of the work, and starting it always gives you a burst of energy. For example, when the music group was formed, I felt that energy. When teaching started, I felt another boost. And when the training reached the specialized stage, I felt yet another surge of energy.
The second reason is this: when someone is on the right path and receives God’s grace, their inner knots start to loosen. As they do, energy is released—and that energy can be used in many ways.
I want to share with others what helped me untie my own knots. Sometimes, you realize that you have the knowledge and experience to make a real difference in a certain area. By getting involved, you can create positive change in that group or community. I’ve recently come to understand that when you serve properly, it also releases energy—both in others and in yourself.
You might work directly, or you might create the conditions for good things to happen through your service. That, in itself, is an act of love—it’s not always about getting something in return. You do it because you want to ease someone’s sadness and lighten their heart, even if they never show gratitude or even look back. But inspired by the Fourteenth Valley, you still choose to do it.
I think this is a really important point. When you serve in the right way, the changes it brings often come back to you as positive changes in your own life—I’ve seen this myself. But finding the right balance is essential. I’m still learning how to stay balanced while serving. As Mr. Dezhakam always says, you also have to know how to truly live—enjoy life, have fun, and experience joy. I’m working on these parts of my life right now, and I can clearly see how service is affecting me in positive ways.
The core part for me is the Fourteenth Valley, or at least that’s my goal. The other part is the positive changes that happen in a person—there’s a kind of “magic” in it. For example, someone becomes Pahlevan (someone who voluntarily donate 10000 dollars for the aims and goals of Congress 60 to be spent on scientific research studies of Congress 60 and buying land for Congress 60 branches). As a volunteer goes to Mr. Dezhakam to be allowed to pay this amount of money, first of all, Mr. Dezhakam asks them: “Have you got any expectations from God or His creatures?” When a person truly adopts that mindset—donating money without expectation—good things happen naturally.
The same goes for service: this only really happens if the Fourteenth Valley really exists. Members often say something that frustrates me. They say, “I did all this for myself.” I tell them: yes, that’s true, but don’t go to the other extreme! If you don’t really understand the concepts, it can easily become selfishness. At some point, you need to do things for others too. That’s exactly what selflessness in the Fourteenth Valley means: true self-sacrifice, giving from the very essence of your being, pouring out from your soul. In Sermon Three and even Four of the Fourteenth Valley, Mr. Dezhakam says: your hand must be empty of resentment or hatred so you can receive love. So be careful—yes, you do things for yourself, but if you forget the Fourteenth Valley, it can turn into something bad.
Interviewer: Master, I have another question. These days, meditation to calm the mind has become very popular. What do you think about it? Do you practice it yourself?
Dr. Amin: Actually, even before Congress 60—back in my teenage years and early twenties—I was very interested in these kinds of practices. Mr. Dezhakam himself was too; he had already studied books on self-knowledge and similar topics before me. I tried fasting, raw vegan diets, forty-day retreats (Cheleh-neshini), silent meditation retreats, yoga, and Transcendental Meditation (TM)—I went through all of them. Back then it was trendy, and now it seems even more popular.
What I learned from meditation and similar practices is that they show you the problems, but these practices don’t actually solve the problems. True healing comes through purification (pālâyesh) and refinement of the Self (tazkiyeh). Let me give you an example: imagine you have an old, worn-out carpet in your house. Every time you walk on it, dust rises. So, you vacuum it.
Meditation works in a similar way: when negative thoughts and emotions rise, you meditate for half an hour, sit in silence, repeat a mantra, do TM, or anything similar—it collects the dust, and for a while, your mind feels clean. But the next day, you walk on the same old carpet again, and more dust rises. You meditate again, maybe for longer. If it gets worse, you do a forty-day retreatretreat, or a week or a full month of silent fasting and meditating all day. But ultimately, you need to replace the old carpet. Negative thoughts, bad feelings, selfishness, arrogance—these are what need to be changed so your “carpet” becomes a beautiful silk rug. Meditation gives temporary relief, like vacuuming, but real, lasting healing comes from purification, refinement, and applying the principles taught in Congress 60.
When I did a week of silent fasting and meditation, after about seven days I really felt like I was walking on clouds. But once the week ended, I came straight back to where I started. Meditation acts like a vacuum cleaner: it reveals your problems and helps you deal with them temporarily. The word “meditation” comes from the idea of care or attention (morāqabeh in Persian), because it allows you to notice your own flaws. During my twelve hours of silent meditation each day, I became aware of my mistakes—how I treated my family, the resentments I held, and the things I needed to fix. But the real healing came through purification, refinement, and applying the principles taught in Congress 60. That’s how true cure works.
Interviewer: Master, as a final question, what message would you like to give to women who feel they have lost their way and might read this interview?
Dr. Amin: Following what we discussed today, no lesson is learned without mistakes. Every person can lose their way and go down the wrong path—we’ve been there ourselves. First, they should value their time. Some think, “There’s a path anyway, and I have time—I’ll fix it in 5 or 10 years.” They must understand the importance of time and not let it slip away.
Second, they should not fall into sorrow or despair. People are often misled in two ways: one, thinking “It’s too late for us, we’ve gone the wrong way, the water is already spilled.” But with the right path, purification, and refinement, any damage can be repaired. Every day in Congress 60, we see individuals who were completely broken, but now restored—often even better than they were originally. So, you too can transform everything in your life into its best form through the power of your own Aql [wisdom]—and this is documented in our texts.
There is no ruin that cannot be repaired, no wound that cannot heal, and no problem that cannot be solved—especially with the knowledge available in Congress 60. Also, keep time in mind: some say, “It’s too late, forget it,” others, “We have plenty of time, we’ll deal with it later.” Both are tricks—be aware of them. This is my message.
Interviewer: Master Amin, thank you very much for taking the time to speak with me.
Interview and Typing by: Traveler Roya, News Marzban, Rose Branch of Congress 60, Tehran
Edited by: Traveler Samira, Rose Branch of Congress 60, Tehran
Review and Submission by: Companion Fatemeh, Rose Branch of Congress 60, Tehran
Photo by: Companion Mohaddeseh Rose Branch of Congress 60, Tehran


Translated by: Companion Samira, Legion 18, Sheikhbahaei Branch of Congress 60, Isfahan


Revised by Elahe


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