Part Two of the Interview with Mr. Amin Dezhakam
Source: Caspian Branch
Tuesday, March 7, 2023
Part two of the interview:
Has your field of study, which is physics, helped you in the writing the Worldview Pamphlets?
Absolutely! Perhaps if I had pursued any other field of study, I wouldn’t have been able to learn the things I’ve learned about worldview in this way; in other words, physics was the best option for my understanding of my worldview. Of course, physics has many branches, and I am currently pursuing cosmology for my Ph.D. When I was accepted into this major, I hadn’t realized that I was a worldview instructor in Congress 60 and the field I had chosen dealt with cosmology, studying the Existence, and this point was very interesting to me.
In your opinion, how is the “Khamr” (the body's natural internal intoxicants) or the “X” system of a companion reconstructed?
Several factors are involved in this process. First, we need to examine how it was destroyed. The answer to your question can be found in the educational resources of Congress 60. An addict and a healthy person live together for years. Through this close relationship, they have mutual effects on each other. Mr. Dezhakam always illustrates this with an example that the drug abuser is like a driver, and the healthy person is the passenger sitting next to him in the car.
The passenger is always in a state of fear and panic. The driver is either hungover or, most of the time intoxicated ,under the influence of drugs. A person who is intoxicated has no fear because their senses are not functioning properly and they have no perception of the situation. For this reason, they drive at high speed on the road recklessly; However, the companions due to their normal sensory perception, perceive the dangers and experience a dire situation filled with fear and stress. The destruction of the companion originates from this. Now, life has returned to its normal routine, one of the important and key issues is the ability to forgive the traveler for the hardships they have endured.
If a companion constantly reminds the traveler of what happened [in the dark era of addiction] means companions have not yet reached healing and balance. Why should they forgive? Because the traveler was ill and not in a normal state. The companions need to be able to forgive and not to blame them, and not constantly remind them of the past. Forgiveness is not an easy task and requires a lot of things. We need to learn many lessons to be able to forgive. One's heart must grow, the way of thinking must change, the senses, the worldview, the perspective, and many other factors must be altered. Another aspect of the issue is that you have lost many years of your life alongside a drug abuser.
You may feel that your life has been wasted and you have aged at a young age. Now the traveler is recovered, and you are left with the lost years; and feel nothing is worthwhile now. What should you do now? You must be able to try and know that nothing happens without wisdom, and humans must strive as long as they are alive. If they get on the right path, many of the lost things will return to them. These lessons should be learned gradually, but it does not happen overnight. We do not expect anyone to attend Congress 60 for one week and implement all of this immediately. It takes at least one or two years to establish a solid foundations, and after that, they will be treated and approach balance.
You mentioned somewhere that the first condition for becoming a guide in Congress 60 is love, and the second condition is having the right perspective towards suffering. Could you explain this for those who have a love for serving?
When you become a guide or teacher, you might go astray somewhere along the path. When we say the first condition is love, it means you should not fall into the trap of losing your love due to an excessive focus on following Congress 60’s rules and disciplines; in other words you should not become a rigid and despotic person. You want to implement the rules, but if you become harsh, cruel, and strict, you have been trapped by the negative forces, and become their victim, your quality [of being a lover] has changed, and you are no longer a teacher. You are no longer suited to educate others.
Love helps you. Do you feel this love within yourself? If you do not feel it, then you have gone wrong somewhere. If you have negative feelings such as anger and hatred towards others and your students, it means you need to go back and correct the mistake you made.
The next point, the right perspective on suffering, means: Where were you, and in what position were you? How did you behave when you didn’t know [the knowledge you have now]? It was the love and rules of Congress 60 that brought you to this point, so you shouldn't forget the pains and difficulties you have faced. This understanding helps you and serves as a compass guiding you on the path of teaching.
What is your view regarding the activities of male companions in the provinces?
I have a lot of hope for them to find their place, and the key is that the quality of their education must be high; meaning that, just like travelers and even more diligently, they must strive in training, serving, transcribing CDs, and engaging in other activities, as well as untangling their own complexes in order to reach their own position. That’s why Mr. Dezhakam has allowed male companions, to sit in the travelers’ legions and receive the same quality of education, in provinces where groups for male companions have not been established. If we carry out this plan, I believe we will achieve good results in the future.
In the introduction of the book "The Zone of 60 Degrees Minus Zero" you mentioned events that occurred in your home. My question is, as a child in the family, how did you perceive your father's addiction?
Actually, I didn't perceive it at all because I didn't know my father was an addict. I thought he occasionally smoked recreationally, so I had no idea that he had been addicted for many years and could not escape from it. The burden of hardship and suffering was carried by Mrs. Ani, [my mother] and she never expressed it to anyone. It was a secret held only within her heart, and whenever we faced a lack, she would compensate for it through hard effort, working day and night, and performing injections [since Mrs. Ani, Mr. Dezhakam’s wife was a nurse]. Of course, I would go with her too! She would work at the clinic every morning until noon, and every other night, she would be at the hospital until morning to keep and save the family.
I was unaware of the depth of the tragedy, but I could sense the changes. I noticed that Mr. Drzhakam was becoming older and more fragile day by day. I saw his despair and irritability, but I didn’t realize the cause; and it was good that I was not aware, because if I had understood, I would have been seriously harmed. This was due to the insight and patience of Mrs. Ani, who had the diagnosis and wisdom that this matter should not be transmitted to the children. There are mothers who, as soon as something happens, humiliate their child because of their father’s addiction or say, "Did you know your father was an addict?!" Or they confide to their child about the father’s addiction. But they should not act this way because by doing so, they want to bring the child onto their side and act together against the father of the family or gain some advantage. However, a wise person does not behave this way because the child gets harmed and, instead of becoming a mature person in the future, will become like a crooked and misshapen pillar.
One of the conditions for marriage is awareness . Could you please explain a little about awareness or the feeling of love?
Regarding marriage, I can't speak from personal experience since I haven't gone through it myself! However, when it comes to the feeling of love, I find it difficult to provide a direct opinion because that wouldn’t be appropriate; but generally, in any relationship__ be it marriage, partnership, friendship, or any other connection—it's important to consider the [educational] CD “Obstacles to Affection”. This means you should be careful to ensure that your love does not merge with a sense of ownership. A small amount of possessiveness is not a problem, but if you want the other person to be completely yours, from the beginning you have already stumbled into a pitfall.
Because if you want to make someone your slave and servant, it contradicts all the teachings you have learned. If you love someone, you care about them, feel a sense of responsibility, and there are mutual and two-sided duties between you__ like father and child, or sister and brother, and so on. But, if you try to possess them as your own, you are on the wrong path.
Marriage is also a type of bond of affection, and as I mentioned before, we must consider the CD “Obstacles to Affection”.
And the final word:
I have the best wishes for the male companions, and I hope they too find their own path. Thank you and I hope you continue on the right path.
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Translated by companion Zahra
Revised and edited by Elahe